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Neon Genesis Evangelion
werid to compare holywood movies to animes but...

anime characters are always "goody two shoes" even if it's dark shounen or seinan. on top of that, anime charcters never have to make tough decisions like characters in tarantino movies do.
 

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i liked the arc with the boxer the most. he is a virtuous alpha male, sorta reminds me of erwin if he was born in a shitty part of LA.
He was a really nice guy and an honest person.

I didn't like how John Travolta was mean to him for no reason in the bar. I stopped caring about that character after that.

Imo, Travolta was literally a big fat beta and an orbiter the entire movie. There was nothing respectable about him. And unlike Samuel Jackson's psycho he wasn't funny at all (and by the end of the movie at least Samuel Jackson's character reformed).

Bruce Willis in that movie was not that smart though so he can't be like Erwin for that reason though they have some similarities.

He had a foreign wife which was cool. I'd like to have a wife with an accent, (American English on women is so boring). That French accenting of his gf was annoying though.

i liked the arc with the boxer the most. he is a virtuous alpha male, sorta reminds me of erwin if he was born in a shitty part of LA.
Priss from Bubblegum Crisis has also been described as one of those virtuous low class (due to lack of opportunity growing up but they probably would've been a lot more sophisticated in better circumstances) kind of characters.

i liked when he decided to go back and save him even though he didnt have to.
I like to think it was because he was a legit nice guy but I think there was somewhat of a Machiavellian aspect to not have to worry about Marsellus' gang trying to kill him for the rest of his life as long as he saves him.

and tbh the violence isn't exactly senseless, since all the characters had good reason to do what they did, but i get what you mean by its excessive.
That scene you linked was what I meant out of all of them.

It was pretty cool when Bruce Willis took that katana though.

Otherwise it sucked.

i found the whole scene with them washing a car to be really strange. the movie could of ended with the boxer, it was like tarentino was trying to calm the viewer down with that. that whole arc was why i think it's the best movie i ever saw.
I thought it ended with Samuel Jackson and John Travolta walking out of the diner.

Actually it did lol.


I thought they were dressed cool though (at least Samuel Jackson).

Jimmy says they look like dorks (that was so stupid he was insulting them for wearing his own clothes lol and even Samuel Jackson points it out). I like this scene a lot too.


that was the only violent scene and there were no nudes. the film depicts brad pitt as some alpha male who is humble and displays aritotilian virtues
This sounds stupid of me to say but Brad Pitt looks like one of those guys.

I might watch it idk. It would redeem the other Tarantino trash I've seen since (Django, Inglorious, some others I forgot).

nah these movies are insanely good. hollywood garbage would be like the avengers or inception
They're tolerable for me so I guess that makes them "good" but I still prefer anime and don't really like anything with real people.

werid to compare holywood movies to animes but...

anime characters are always "goody two shoes" even if it's dark shounen or seinan. on top of that, anime charcters never have to make tough decisions like characters in tarantino movies do.
Legend of the Galactic Heroes was one tough decision after another, constantly.

There were lots in NGE as well.

Imo these Tarantino movies aren't really that deep. I just see those tough decisions as Tarantino trying to make a cool scene.

I can't really get into it deeply like I can anime.
 

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"Bitch be cool" is one of my favorite lines in a movie.


I tell that to myself a lot when my anxiety starts tripping up.

Btw I'll never call a girl "honey bunny" lol.

This movie had a lot of good lines.
 

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It's hard for me laugh at anything but this movie is legitimately funny at times.

This is a good movie if you strip out Marsellus and his gf. They're in the worst parts.

I don't think I can watch it again though.

I also liked this exchange from the diner scene.


Imo this was a really good ending.

I'm so lame sometimes when I'd get done with a test or something (back when I took those in person) I'd play that music in my head and walk out imagining myself like the Pulp Fiction ending.

This was a really good movie though. Idk what my favorite movie with real people is though. Maybe it's this one.

I don't really like movies.
 

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mo, Travolta was literally a big fat beta and an orbiter the entire movie. There was nothing respectable about him. And unlike Samuel Jackson's psycho he wasn't funny at all (and by the end of the movie at least Samuel Jackson's character reformed).
that's why tarantino had him killed in the movie (you gotta respect his writing abilities). he promotes morality in his movie that way. even in the hollywood movie the girl who got blowtorched was the worst outta the 3

Imo these Tarantino movies aren't really that deep. I just see those tough decisions as Tarantino trying to make a cool scene.

I can't really get into it deeply like I can anime.
a movie with a bunch of well directed, well written scenes that stay in your head is 1000x better than movies which try to be deep, which imo, is what 90% of movies people label as "deep" are. i'd say NGE is deep ONLY because of the psych/dream scenes, and the targeted audience

immy says they look like dorks
i like how he puts himself in his movie for that role.

Imo this was a really good ending.
yea the ending was very good. what i meant was that the show coulf of ended at the boxer arc, but he really went abv and beyond with the whole car washing scene, and then the finale. he takes into account the psych state of the viewer and calms them down with the car wash, but the exhilerates them, and leaves it satisfying. smthn youd only feel first time watching obv
 

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I also like the themes of redemption.

Samuel Jackson and John Travolta both walked out of the diner at the end but only Samuel Jackson survived because he legitimately was able to change.

And that's from a lifetime of being a cold blooded killer raised in one of the worst ghettos possible (Inglewood). He was so sick he would toy with people he was going to murder. John Travolta was the kind of guy who'd think it would be a waste of time and just quickly kill the targets and get out of there because he didn't want to be bothered. Jackson liked to have fun with them first.

There was really good character development.

I don't know what the message of portraying Travolta as a simp was supposed to represent. That he's just preoccupied with lust? How weak he truly is despite being a mob hitman?

Jackson's character was too cool for any of that. And imo in this movie he was so lean. He looked really good (I almost never say this about black guys).

There were also themes with him about being materialistic (his car). I feel like Tarantino was trying to present how he sees the ideal person as well as the unideal person with those two. That's how I explain their dichotomy.


Then it was like after this came out he spent the entire rest of his life obese. He's a living fatpill.

I can kind of relate with the Jackson character in a way. Not really the Bruce Willis one since he's just a typical chad and also kind of a boring character.
 

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I also like the themes of redemption.

Samuel Jackson and John Travolta both walked out of the diner at the end but only Samuel Jackson survived because he legitimately was able to change.

And that's from a lifetime of being a cold blooded killer raised in one of the worst ghettos possible (Inglewood). He was so sick he would toy with people he was going to murder. John Travolta was the kind of guy who'd think it would be a waste of time and just quickly kill the targets and get out of there because he didn't want to be bothered. Jackson liked to have fun with them first.

There was really good character development.

I don't know what the message of portraying Travolta as a simp was supposed to represent. That he's just preoccupied with lust? How weak he truly is despite being a mob hitman?

Jackson's character was too cool for any of that. And imo in this movie he was so lean. He looked really good (I almost never say this about black guys).

There were also themes with him about being materialistic (his car). I feel like Tarantino was trying to present how he sees the ideal person as well as the unideal person with those two. That's how I explain their dichotomy.
and you still think this movie is garbage lol????
 

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Here's a new theory I just came up with btw about the ideal and the unideal represented in these two characters.

The person that Samuel Jackson calls for help is Jimmy who is this really respectful guy. His wife is a nurse, he has a really nice house, he knows his way around a kitchen (he's sophisticated) and you can tell he has a really good relationship.

John Travolta calls this dirtbag and his drug addict wife who sounds like a retard and doesn't mind the situation at all with Marsellus' ODed gf.

While Jimmy's wife would divorce him on the spot with any of that insanity around.


And with Jimmy you wonder how he could've ever been Samuel Jackson's friend or been involved in any of the criminal underworld since he seems like a really straight kind of person.

I thought this was kind of interesting (I just now realized how they both call their friends for help and the two very different kinds of friends they have even though they are also kind of similar as well).

And the stoner guy lives in a junky house with trash everywhere while Jimmy's house is so neat.

I think this is also Tarantino representing the ideal and the unideal.
 

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and you still think this movie is garbage lol????
Yeah there's just a lot of fetish stuff.

This is another good scene though.


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I really didn't like the Bruce Willis scenes (except the ones with Travolta).

The watch scene with Christopher Walken was just stupid. The pawn shop scene is not worth getting into in regards to how disgusting it was.

And I thought there's no way I could ride out into the sunset with my gf on that [gay slur I think it's better I don't type]'s disgusting motorcycle. He even kept his awful key chain.

The Russian cab driver woman was weird (like Tarantino had this foreign women fetish with Bruce Willis for some reason). There are no Russian women that drive cabs in LA.

Those were the worst parts of the movie. The best parts were with Samuel Jackson.

Imo this movie is really flawed but I sort of like it. I guess it's kind of like Attack on Titan for me in that regard.
 

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Here's a new theory I just came up with btw about the ideal and the unideal represented in these two characters.

The person that Samuel Jackson calls for help is Jimmy who is this really respectful guy. His wife is a nurse, he has a really nice house, he knows his way around a kitchen (he's sophisticated) and you can tell he has a really good relationship.

John Travolta calls this dirtbag and his drug addict wife who sounds like a retard and doesn't mind the situation at all with Marsellus' ODed gf.

While Jimmy's wife would divorce him on the spot with any of that insanity around.


And with Jimmy you wonder how he could've ever been Samuel Jackson's friend or been involved in any of the criminal underworld since he seems like a really straight kind of person.

I thought this was kind of interesting (I just now realized how they both call their friends for help and the two very different kinds of friends they have even though they are also kind of similar as well).

And the stoner guy lives in a junky house with trash everywhere while Jimmy's house is so neat.

I think this is also Tarantino representing the ideal and the unideal.
that is very true. it's further illustrated with how poorly travolta behaves in jimmy's house, showing he's incompatible with him (idk if u remember, but when trav was washing his hands he didnt wash it properly and got blood on jimmys towel, and jackson got mad at him saying he should have washed better to not ruin jimmys stuff)
 

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This is another good scene though.
what was jimmy's relation to marcelus and jackson?

The Russian cab driver woman was weird (like Tarantino had this foreign women fetish with Bruce Willis for some reason). There are no Russian women that drive cabs in LA.
she's from south america...
 

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that is very true. it's further illustrated with how poorly travolta behaves in jimmy's house, showing he's incompatible with him (idk if u remember, but when trav was washing his hands he didnt wash it properly and got blood on jimmys towel, and jackson got mad at him saying he should have washed better to not ruin jimmys stuff)
That's a really good observation. I forgot all about that scene.

Samuel Jackson played a really cool character in this movie, I admire that character a lot (not until after the Big Kahuna burger apartment scene).

I think that scene shows how people like Travolta are lazy and stupid.

Samuel Jackson was smart, gl, funny, personable, moral. Travolta also whined a lot too the whole movie and was really beta (for a mob killer). Travolta was also very crude even though they both cursed a lot it wasn't the same when Jackson did it. I didn't get any bitterness from him ever compared to Travolta.

what was jimmy's relation to marcelus and jackson?
I just watched the towel scene and Jewels calls Jimmy a friend, while he tells Travolta on the car he calls him one of his partners.

I don't think he had anything to do with Marcelus just someone Jimmy knew himself somehow. Kind of fun to think about how they would've met (I used to think about that a lot when I would rewatch this movie among a lot of the stuff I already wrote in this thread).
 

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just watched the towel scene and Jewels calls Jimmy a friend, while he tells Travolta on the car he calls him one of his partners.

I don't think he had anything to do with Marcelus just someone Jimmy knew himself somehow. Kind of fun to think about how they would've met (I used to think about that a lot when I would rewatch this movie among a lot of the stuff I already wrote in this thread).
marcellus is jimmy's uncle just rewatched a part
 

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There's more layers to this I'm just now realizing.

Vincent regularly did drugs (even on screen) while we never saw that with Jewels.

And just look at this arrogance.


There's not much more to make of it but I find these parallels really interesting.

I glanced through the comments and everyone is noting how incompetent Vincent was portrayed and how it was just one mistake after another with him. He's pretty much a complete depiction of an idiot.

He's definitely how not to be.

I didn't really think about it this much when I first saw these movies, but now that personalities are much more important to me than before and I'm more aware of kinds of traits and characteristics I'm really picking up on this.

He even talks to Jewels about smoking weed in Amsterdam during the "royale with cheese" scene (another of my favorites).


Jewels was a really sophisticated guy while Vincent is a total slob.
 

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Jewels about smoking weed in Amsterdam
and then jules responds "damn im fucking going [to amsterdam]" (0:28)
i agree with your overall view but jfl if you think a gangster from Inglewood doesn't do drugs in their spare time, maybe not as much as Travis though.
funny how they foreshadowed that too. Jules expresses interest in going to Amsterdam, and in the end he says he's quitting his job to travel the world.
 

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and then jules responds "damn im fucking going [to amsterdam]" (0:28)
I felt like he was just playing along with the dumbass but I've got a really haloed view of Jewels.

i agree with your overall view but jfl if you think a gangster from Inglewood doesn't do drugs in their spare time, maybe not as much as Travis though.
:spew:

I just liked he wasn't blatant about it. It makes it easier for me to try to relate to him.

funny how they foreshadowed that too. Jules expresses interest in going to Amsterdam, and in the end he says he's quitting his job to travel the world.
There's a theory that he became the organ player at the church where the Kill Bill woman got married (I forgot her name) even though at one time I had her as an avi on this site. I hate that theory though since that means Jewels ended up being the fat slob that Samuel Jackson became by the time Kill Bill was filmed.

I don't like that movie nearly as much as Pulp Fiction btw.

Idk what happened to Jewels. Vincent was like "what are you going to become a bum?" at the diner. That's not very interesting to think about imo what I do think is that he was able to stick to his new path and what he believes in.

I just remembered her name but it's a spoiler for the second Kill Bill so I won't say. I think they just called her "The Bride" before it was revealed but idk if they ever said that in the first movie or just the credits or something.
 

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Kill Bill is just some foid fetish movie. There's nothing deep about it like Pulp Fiction.

Imo only female characters in anime can be deep (like Rei and Motoko Kusanagi in GitS 1995).

Women in Hollywood are just about sex appeal and so are their movies.

I'm not sexist btw (not that I would care about being accused on PSL of being sexist) but the movie producers and directors are since their female characters are.

I guess it's a business decision too since they need to have characters that sell. Not too many people are going to watch a movie with an Ayanami like character as the lead.

Kill Bill is seriously just porn. There's nothing to it and nothing for me to analyze.
 

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Im too mornonic to watch intelligent films
Did you mean to say too mornonic or mnemonic? Lol.

I don't think live action Hollywood films are intelligent at all, they are over long, slow moving in making points it's like watching a snail take a shit. I find toilet breaks and drinking beer as a cope for getting through live action films, its a chore.
This is why I prefer cinema, it forces me to watch the movie and I don't clutter my shelves with DVDs of films I only watch once and then it just sits there staring at me untouched taking up space.

I watch films on VLC player with the run time displayed and it was like counting down the hours and minutes being in school. Sometimes I had to stop the movie, jot down the timestamp on a post-it note and divide a movie up into 4 parts. My "intermissions" would last 3 hours of browsing forums, or days I just don't have the attention span for a pointless 2 hour film. I did this with the live action Alita-Battle Angel, of which the Japan anime is still far better and only took 50 minutes to tell its story.

Like @Mafia I prefer short, sharp, punchy episodic anime. Heck I love the musical intro and outros and never skip them! Sometimes I watch them in the morning with a coffee and only pause for 60 seconds to look out the window, or pause for laughter.
 

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I only saw the Sicilian scene (of True Romance) because someone linked it. Imo I don't think it's worth watching for me I don't like those kinds of films.
I recall the scene did the rounds during the "race discussion bait threads" on sluthate and race realism on YouTube when Ariana Grande was stepping out and dating "Big" Sean. The union was seen as "white female" getting "blacked" by b.b.c and white men getting cucked by proxy lookism.net memes. There was even that user "b.b.c. takeover" and white cucks......among more serious Tea and Kraut during alt right/stormfront coping 2014-2017 on YouTube leading to Trump getting elected (USA) and Brexit (UK).

The joke was Italians had already been blacked, hence the dark hair, but I'd argue it was her mediterranean features nor ignoring the fact Grande is Jewish and has dated more white men, but whatever.

I read Tarantino's screenplay for True Romance while doing media studies. The final film is a Tarantino film, Tony Scott captured his screenplay perfectly, but due to the hype and phenomenon around Tarantinos Directing persona and "genuis" it gets overlooked as he didn't Direct nor officially Produce. I don't think you'd like it @Mafia due to Christian Slayter shagging the blonde in a phone box sex scene, that mogs worse than that one sex scene in Jackie Brown.

Conversely Natural Born Killers was based on a screenplay by Tarantino but Director Oliver Stone made so many changes, creative differences that Tarantino disowned it. I think it was a clash of egos. Tarantino wanted multi faceted archs, whereas Stone read the script and said he wanted to "vomit" and ridicule American trash culture.
 
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